Interview with Artist Santi Preecha




By Mick Michaels






The Cosmick View: Hello, and welcome to
The Cosmick View/MBM Ten

Pounder! Thanks for taking some time to chat with us!

Santi Preecha: Thank you for having me!


CV: Describe your definition of
your sound and style and how does

that definition uniquely describe the music?

SP: My definition for the sound of my music would be experimental

electronic meets sound art. I personally lean on ‘sound art’ as a

concise definition simply because it’s the most open in that I like to

approach sound as a whole in an egalitarian sense and try to avoid

the codified senses of music (this instrumentation designates this

genre or style, or this beat means this kind of music which signals

these emotions etc.). That being said, I primarily work in the

electronic medium but of course that could also mean working with

acoustic sources and integrating electro-acoustic music as well. I

think a lot about the mediums we use to listen to music today, i.e.

mostly earbuds and headphones and a lot of the time while we’re on

the go. This in many ways frees music from the singular time and

space required in a traditional show or even listening to a record on

vinyl at home and this divorce is also interesting to explore within

the music itself. The way we hear music has changed and

reflecting/exploring that is important to me.


CV: Today, everyone talks about artist and audience connection. Is such a

level of connection actually achievable for an artist and if so, how have you

made the connection to your fans?

SP: That’s a really great question and one I’ve been thinking about

for some time. We live in such an interesting and diverse time,

musically, artistically and culturally and that is absolutely

exhilarating but it also means that there is much more subdivision in

communication with the public as a whole. For example, in

Beethoven’s time, his public would have been exposed to more or

less the same kinds of music as he would have i.e. folk music, music

you hear in pubs etc. and orchestral/chamber concert music to

varying degrees. So for example when he wrote let’s say his famous

9th, anyone could have been in the audience and whether or not they

liked it, there would seem to have been a more direct a

cultural/musical conversation because of the limited amount of

music available than say today where an audience may be more

exposed to only certain genres/styles/groups of music than others

simply because there’s so much more out there now and that we

have access to. And by audience today I mean the general public,

not just the audience of the genre one happens to work in.

Of course I love this diversity as well and I think audiences are

changing and becoming more eclectic and varied in their tastes; it’s

not as strange now than even ten or fifteen years ago to go from

listening to say a Mahler symphony to Radiohead to Nas if you’re

open to it as a listener and I think audiences are becoming more and

more open. I very much believe in this cross-pollination not just of

music genres and styles but also of all the arts. There are countless

examples of historical art movements (Modernism, Impressionism

etc.) where the artistic and cultural dialogue affected a number of

art forms and the public as well. I’ve tried to connect to my audience

through social media of course as we all do and through interviews

like these but I also seek out various festivals and try to be aware

and part of a dialogue that is interdisciplinary. I think that’s very

important and helps one from being stuck in one’s bubble both as an

audience and as a creator though it is very hard because with

marketing and genre subdivision the way it is, we are usually only

able to speak to and with a limited group if we’re lucky. So having

that broad cultural discussion is challenging but I hope and feel that

slowly we will find a way.


CV: Is fan interaction an important part of
your inner culture as an artist?

SP: Yes absolutely! It’s an ongoing dialogue both inner and outer.

Art for me at the end of the day is about self-realization and that is

both inward with oneself but also outwardly in how the world is and

one’s place in it. The same goes for fan interaction. It’s part of that

inner/outer dialogue.


CV: Can an artist or band truly interact with its fans and still maintain a level of personal privacy without crossing the line and giving up their “personal

space” in your opinion?

SP: Yes I think so but it also depends on what one defines as

‘truthful interaction’ and ‘personal space’; where that line is. And it’s

different for everyone. For me I do think it’s possible. I think a

truthful interaction with fans doesn’t need to mean a divulging of all

one’s personal life details or biography or what one goes through at

every moment. We’re all partly in the shadows, partly illuminated

and that is shifting all the time, no matter who we interact with,

even with ourselves. In a way the most truthful interaction with fans

is through one’s work. There the truth is laid bare, at least one’s

own truth.


CV: Is music, and its value, viewed differently around the world in your

opinion? If so, what do you see as the biggest difference in such multiple

views among various cultures?

SP: Yes but I think it’s less about where you are in the world and

more about its social function. I think musical value still is very tied

to function and unfortunately there is still this great divide between

the world of so-called academia (i.e. contemporary classical music)

and other contemporary music (hip hop, pop, electronic etc.) again

to do with function. This is not new however. There has always been

a divide between functions of music which determine value. In the

Baroque period for example you had church music, music to

accompany royal barges (Handel’s Water Music), dance music

(Gigue, Gavotte, Sarabande etc.). There are many examples of this

in many different cultures, the functions are similar: religious,

state/cultural functions, clubs (dance), etc. Since Beethoven, there

has been a shift, in the West at least, to more ‘personal expressions’

in music, ultimately to music for music’s sake even but as we can

see today, most contemporary music outside of academia still very

much adheres to function, social function to be exact. How much has

this changed now that music is so often consumed personally and

intimately on earbuds in private? Does this open up music as a new

form of communication that in some ways bypasses the traditional

social communal functions music has always played? In a way my

music is often grappling with this, particularly in this latest album.

This dichotomy between the visceral physical communal cathartic

function of say techno, be it underground or not, and a kind of inner

‘self-expression’ and musical, cultural exploration that perhaps

doesn’t conform entirely to the former function. Can these co-exist

in today’s music? I think it can but it’s an ongoing question and

exploration and ultimately it may end up being an entirely new kind

of music.


CV: Do you feel that a band that has an international appeal, will tend to

connect more so to American audiences? Would they be more enticed or

intrigued to see the band over indigenous acts because of the foreign flavor?

SP: I think that totally depends on the musical style and also

whether or not the band with the international appeal is from

America. Sigur Ros for example I would say has a pretty

international appeal. I couldn’t tell you if their audience is more

American or not. I think though instrumental music, which is the

realm I primarily work in, is universal, or can be. If it’s music with

lyrics and the lyrics are in a foreign language then yes maybe there

is that language barrier but again, Sigur Ros is a great example here.

In terms of whether an American audience would be more enticed or

intrigued by an international band over an indigenous one because

of foreign flavor, I’m sure there is still that allure there to a degree,

especially depending on the genre of music, but I think it’s becoming

less and less so although of course one still carries one’s culture

with one and through one’s work. But I think the connection is more

personal now than the broader appeal of one’s nationality. There is

more diversity even in one’s cultural identity than in previous eras I

think. For example, I grew up in Thailand with Thai culture but also

with a lot of English literature and Western classical music

(Tchaikovsky was my first exposure to music I can remember) and

some Japanese culture etc. so while my nationality is Thai,

musically, artistically my identity as a Thai artist would be different

than say other Thai artists etc. I think the same goes for any artist

these days.


CV: Has modern-day digital technology made everyone an artist on some

level in your opinion? Have the actual lines of what really is an artist been

blurred?

SP: It depends on your definition of artist. The much earlier

definition of artist was as ‘artisan’ as in someone who crafts

something. In that sense yes there are many more artists around as

we all have much more access to these tools. In the 19th century

definition of artist as ‘visionary’ I would say the percentage hasn’t

changed much. There were many many artists around in the 19th and early 20th century but how many Picassos were there, or Becketts or T.S. Eliot’s? Today there is a new definition of artist as

‘entrepreneur’ and the interaction has changed between artist and

public. The way art is consumed, thought of and discussed is

different and in some ways it’s feels less open in that these

discussions can and are still had but in smaller subsets of people. So

the interdisciplinary days do not seem to be flourishing as much

anymore which is a shame but I’m sure there will be a resurgence of

this as we move forward. There’s a great article I read a few years

back about this called “Artist as Entrepreneur” or something similar.

It’s an ongoing discussion a lot of it which stems from the question

‘what is Art?’. Specifically, what is Art today? At the end of the day

though it seems to me it still has to be about communication and

exploration that leads to that self-realization for both the artist and

the audience. Only time will tell who lives on and who doesn’t.


CV: How would you describe the difference between an artist who follows

trends and one who sets them?

SP: The artist Holly Herndon whom I greatly admire said something

related to this about how she thought about what kind of music

would be heard in the future and wanted to explore that. I think

there’s the key right there. Someone who isn’t stuck in the past but

rather attempts to understand all of the present, which includes the

past, in order to try and find new forms that can express the ‘now’

which can also come from thinking about what the future could be as

well. Electronic music is an incredibly exciting playground in this

way because in many ways it is still such a young medium. The

orchestra had several hundred years before it got to Mahler for

example. Electronic has been around far less. As much as I love the

electronic music I’m hearing today, I’m constantly thinking and

asking myself where this could go, what is music today, how do we

think and function today that’s different from past times, how has

our consciousness changed due to all these advancements in

technology and how could that affect and become part of a musical

expression that is part of a present dialogue? These aren’t questions

that can have concrete answers but that’s the excitement. Each

album, each piece is an attempt at an answer. As Beckett said “Ever

Tried. Ever Failed. No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better.”

Words to live by.


CV: Has music overall been splintered into too many sub-genres in an effort

to appease fan tastes in your opinion? And has such fan appeasements, in

actuality, weakened music’s impact as a whole by dividing audiences?

SP: Yes absolutely! It’s taken me many years to reconcile this for

myself as a listener. Because music has been codified since the

beginning of our existence, we have a lot of ‘codes’ that define what

music is, i.e. these chords mean this emotion, this rhythm means

this kind of exhilarating state etc. I’ve questioned this a lot and

often tried to answer the question of how many of these musical

tools (chords, melodies, rhythms etc.) are culturally defined and

how many of them are innate. I think like a lot of things the answer

is somewhere in between. For example, why is it that across

multiple cultures over centuries we find examples of a triplet that

often is used to give a sense of excitement, sensuality, of movement.

Could it be that it is because we’re bi-peds and so this sub-division

into three rather than two (like a march) gives us that feel? This

could be an example of a musical element being innate in us as

opposed to culturally defined. I think it’s important as listeners as

well as creators to learn to truly ‘listen’ to the music and not just to

style or to the ‘coded triggers’ we are already used to. In every and

all genres. This also questions the often-used term ‘emotion’. What

does this really mean and can we truly appreciate something new if

we’re only listening for emotion? This is a complicated question but I

do feel that it’s important not to only listen for ‘emotion’. There is a

time and place for emotional, nostalgic music that reminds us of

better days etc. but if we’re only using that as our bar for what we

like or what we should listen to, then we’ll never listen openly to

something that does not have those traits.


CV: What can fans expect to see coming next from you?

Apart from this second album that just came out on February 2nd,

ROUND A ROO, I’ll be releasing a score album for my score for Guy

Longstreet’s neo-noir psychological thriller Black Jade in the near

Future. I’m also working on a new project but it’s still in its early

experimental phases so we’ll see where it goes.


CV: Thanks again for taking some time and talking. It is greatly appreciated.

SP: Thank you so much for having me!


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