Interview with Guitarist Nick Pacitti of Testimony of Apocalypse
By Mick Michaels
Cosmick
View: Hello, Nick! Welcome to The Cosmick View. Thanks for taking
some time out of your day to speak with us. It's greatly appreciated.
Nick Pacitti: Hey Mick! Thanks for thinking of us!
CV:
Typically, Thrash and Death Metal being centered on Christian beliefs are not
commonly linked together. However, Testimony
of Apocalypse has found a way. In your opinion, would the message be any
less powerful without the type of musical genre background the band chose to
embrace? Why this particular genre?
NP: The formation of Testimony of Apocalypse
stemmed from an attempted reunion of 90s Christian Thrash band SACRAMENT. Most original members were involved in the
reunion. I was brought in to assist with
writing and to add a 2nd guitar, as many of the members hadn’t
picked up their instrument in some time.
After a few months of writing and collaborating, we decided that it
wasn’t going to work out as a reunion.
Vocalist Mike Torone, Drummer Paul Graham and I broke off to form Testimony
of Apocalypse.
So, the style was already decided somewhat as we were already creating thrash/death style metal. I think any style of music can deliver the message powerfully as long as it’s done well and with the right intentions.
CV:
Many believe that it's not what you say but how you say that creates the
impact. Do you feel fans of the heavier genre styles tend to gravitate more
towards the music they hear and less to the words that accompany it?
NP: Great question. You know, I think it’s both. Some people are drawn to the music but a
large portion of them also end up learning the lyrics. We put out lyric videos for that very purpose;
we don’t want the message to go unheard…or misunderstood. If the lyrics were initially harder to
understand, they can easily follow along with the video.
CV: No
matter what we do, there is always going to be some opposition. Has there been
any criticism from those within the Christian community who may commend the
message and band's efforts, but feel that the presentation is not so befitting?
If so, how would you reply to such sentiments?
NP: That is a loaded question, lol. There is so much discussion around this each and
everyday within Facebook groups and other forums.
There is the argument that there is no such thing as “Christian metal” its just metal with Christian themed lyrics. Some sing about atheist themes and it’s not called “Atheist Metal” or sing about violence and its not called “Violence Metal” to go the extreme…etc., etc., etc.
Then you have the people who say that Christian music should remain in the church with choirs and an organ singing hymns…and hymns only.
I just know that it feels right to be playing
the kind of music that we are and there will always be critics.
CV: Do
you feel the Heavy Metal genre as a whole has become more of an accepted style
of music as opposed to how it was viewed or even not viewed, 40 plus years ago,
thus lending itself as a valid vehicle to witness to others?
NP: Some subgenres have been widely accepted
for years, depending on what some may view as “heavy metal” a lot of it has
remained mainstream. As far as thrash, Metallica
broke through, but I don’t know that without the Black Album and the next 2
albums following when they were more Hard Rock than metal, that they would have
been as widely accepted. I don’t think we will ever see Death Metal widely
accepted.
CV:
What was once considered an underground form of Heavy Metal, both Thrash and
Death Metal have become a movement and a way of life in their own right for
both artists and fans. How have you witnessed Thrash and Death Metal as
sub-genres evolve in the world of music over the years?
NP: When Thrash and Groove metal combined
(early 90s Pantera, early-mid 90s Sepultura, late 90sExtol) and production got
a little better is when I saw a big push.
I love how some of the great 80s metal albums sound but once the production
got better you saw a greater interest from radio and they were able to expand
out to a larger audience. But, you bring
us to 2024, and I think there is less appreciation for the pioneers of
metal. Some newer bands just want to chugdrop
open A chords and play along with the bass drum… on every single song and then
it becomes solely about the production and I am not a huge fan of that.
CV: Do
you feel those on the outside often have a misunderstanding of more extreme
styles of Metal, which in turn develops a possibly unwarranted dislike, even
hatred of the music without even listening to it?
NP: I think this is probably fair to say for
all types of music. Whether its rap,
country, jazz, etc. There is a flavor
for everyone. But specifically, metal,
with the “sounds like noise” or “cookie monster vocals” comments or whatever
other issue people have. Guess what?
There are people who like it and there is a very good chance that the music has
helped someone through a difficult time, or it reminds them of a loved one that
has passed away, or they just like how it sounds.
CV: How would you describe Testimony of Apocalypse to someone who has never heard the band and may not be a fan of the style of music and/or message?NP: It’s really heavy. There are some screaming type vocals and occasional clean singing… you probably won’t like it. Lol But, it has a positive message.
CV:
What more can fans expect to see coming from Testimony of Apocalypse in 2024 and beyond?
NP: Mike (vocalist) left after our first
album, None Escape The Judgement. Our
second album, The Offering, featured 10 vocalists. One of the vocalists was Derek Corzine (Blood
Thirsty, Bloodline Severed, Crowned in Sorrow) who is now our full time
vocalist and bassist. We have started
writing and recording for the next album, likely going to drop early ’25.
CV:
Thanks again, Nick, for taking the
time to share with our readers. We wish you all the best and continued success.
NP: Thanks for having me.
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out Testimony of Apocalypse at:
https://linktr.ee/testimonyofapocalypse
https://www.facebook.com/TestimonyOfApocalypse
https://open.spotify.com/artist/3MuHWsXweopEjemVhc16d5
https://roxxrecords.com/search?q=testimony+of+apocalypse
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